Gurudeva Katha 1996 Lectures Love is Perpetual. Politics is Not...

Love is Perpetual. Politics is Not…

Śrīla Gurudeva: Why should he forbid? If I am against him, then it is against the rules of the bhakti line. I have not seen anywhere in the scriptures like Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Caitanya-caritāmṛta, or any books of Svāmījī that any bona fide guru will check his disciple to go to any bona fide Vaiṣṇava. Why should he check his disciple from seeing me? Why is he fearful if he is a bona fide guru? This has not been done anywhere. In our gauḍīya maṭhas, everyone can go anywhere. I go to Purī Mahārāja. I have never seen any gurus forbid their disciples from hearing from Vaiṣṇavas. You know that I am senior to them. If they are checking their disciples, then they should check; I have nothing to do. They should control, then I will tell nothing to their disciples whether they should come or not come. I have nothing to gain or lose. They should control all of ISKCON.

Devotee: Do you feel Mahārāja…

Śrīla Gurudeva: This is a policy. Policy means a political thing. I don’t want to go to any politics. I want to help all the little beings, the living entities like Svāmījī has done. I am helping everyone causelessly. I don’t want to be political; I only want to support everyone. It is not written in any śāstra; my Gurudeva or any Gurudeva has not said like so. We see that Jīva Gosvāmī guided Śyāmānanda Prabhu, Narottama Ṭhākura, and Śrīnivāsa Ācārya. Narottama Ṭhākura was the disciple of Lokanātha Gosvāmī. Śyāmānanda Prabhu was the disciple of Hrdayananda Ṭhākura. Śrīnivāsa Ācārya was the disciple of Gopāla Bhaṭṭa Gosvāmī. Yet all were sent to Jīva Gosvāmī. The disciples honored both—their dīkṣā-guru and śikṣā-guru in the same category. Jīva Gosvāmī knows. Anyone has not forbidden any disciple to go to any Vaiṣṇava. I have not seen; so I cannot support this. They should do; I have nothing to criticize. But I know that this principle is surely against Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I know that if they follow this, they will be ruined. Surely, they will be ruined and Prabhupāda’s mission will be troubled.

You will see that if they don’t change, then all the senior disciples who have some intelligence will leave. I know that they will leave very soon. Everyone should be respected. Have I told anything against ISKCON, or any ISKCON leader, or your Gurudeva, or Svāmījī? I have been here since eight days, and I have always glorified Svāmījī and ISKCON. Why should they think otherwise? I am not telling that they should allow all their disciples to come and see me. I don’t want that. But actually, it will be like so. They have given up their countries, desires for name and fame, and they have given up their wealth, wives, and husbands, and they have gone to Svāmījī with their whole intelligence, then why will they not think about this? They must think and they will go where their divine love for Kṛṣṇa will advance. Also, their faith and honor for Svāmījī will increase. They must go there and they will go. Anyone cannot check. Even Hiraṇyakaśipu and Kaṁsa could not check; anyone cannot check. It is out of their control. You see that I am always increasing everyone’s faith and honor towards Svāmījī. Thus, a person like you will come by yourself; they will not check you. And if there is only politics, then politics will not bring anything. So, love is perpetual. Politics is not perpetual; it is only for one or two days.

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The gopīs desire that Kṛṣṇa always remain in kiśora age, and they pray to Him, “Kṛṣṇa, you are an ocean of mercy. Please never grow up and leave us.” Why do they say this? If Kṛṣṇa grows up, then He will not be able to stay with them. Childhood friends play together without a care, but for how long does it last? As kids they have no responsibility; they are free. They have no desire but to play. They play, talk and move here and there. But the gopīs are scared, “Kṛṣṇa will become mature and get many responsibilities. Our time with Him then will be very short.” Like one grown-up person may play for some time, but for how long? Half an hour or an hour, then he goes to his house or for service. He has many responsibilities for maintaining the family. Then he can’t play twenty four hours a day. Even for a prince this is not possible. The gopīs pray, “Don’t let Your young age pass. Then we will be orphans.” Millions of Kṛṣṇa’s devotees had been doing sādhana for millions of years. Now they came to meet with Kṛṣṇa, like a founder-ācārya, divine master, who has thousands of followers and disciples, who all want to meet with him. They all wait for a chance, thinking, “When will Guru Mahārāja be free so that I can go and speak with him?” But they have no chance. They only think and pray for this, but then suffer. If Gurudeva is once alone, they think, “This is our good luck. Now there is a chance to meet with him.” The vraja-gopīs lament, saying, “If Kṛṣṇa was nitya-kiśora and we kiśorīs, it would be best. May we never cross this kiśora age. This is very bad. Then we will have family, and many responsibilities, headache and tension. This is not good. You should remain kiśora, and we will all be Your kiśorī friends with no other responsibility besides Your service and company. Kṛṣṇa, You are very kind; don’t give us any punishment. What punishment? Please don’t grow up and leave us. This is not good.” Then they do a hunger strike, saying, “Don’t cross this age. If You grow up, then a big problem will come.” Nanda Bābā and Yaśodā Mātā thought, “When Kṛṣṇa is young, we will arrange His marriage and celebrate with a huge feast.” Then Gargācārya came from Mathurā and said, “Until Kṛṣṇa has a sacred thread, don’t let Him be married.” Hearing this, the vraja-gopīs clap, “This is very good.” Then Nanda and Yaśodā Mātā are very sad. All in vātsalya-rasa are sad: “Oh, Kṛṣṇa will not get married—this is very bad.” But Kṛṣṇa’s sakhās and sakhīs say, “This is very good. Otherwise, Kṛṣṇa will be distant and divided from us. Then we will feel deep pain.” In the daytime Kṛṣṇa plays and wrestles with the sakhās, and at night He slips out of bed and goes to meet with the sakhīs. Yaśodā Mātā thinks Kṛṣṇa is sleeping, but He slips out into the forest. But if a wife is there, she will never give one a free life. She will tie and bind one, and say, “You are mine. Your mind is not your own. You are mine and no other can have any share.” Therefore the sakhīs start a big strike to stop Kṛṣṇa from growing up. They know that if Kṛṣṇa grows up, they will never be able to be with Him. He will go and sit in big assemblies and perform great deeds. This is a big problem for them. When Kṛṣṇa fights with demons and then comes back and meets with His sakhās and sakhīs, they tease Him, “O Kṛṣṇa, You killed such a powerful demon.” Kṛṣṇa says, “No. He came, and I asked him, ‘Do you know any good fighting moves or have any mystic powers?’ In response he showed Me a move, but did it wrong and then broke his legs and knees. I went and tried to help him, and then all of a sudden he came out of his body and joined Me as a sakhā. What can I do? Look, he is here. He left his physical structure, which was like the costume of a joker, but now he is here with us. His outfit was as a demon to play, but now he is here as My eternal friend.” When Aghāsura came, the sakhās entered his mouth. 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As soon as the gopis learned that Akrura was going to takeKrsna and Baladeva to Mathura, their hearts broke and theywere filled with unbearable anxiety. They knew what wouldfollow. “Take all our sweets and cows,” they exclaimed,“but do not take Krsna! This is worse than killing us.”Unaware that their garments had become disheveled andthat their bangles and other ornaments had broken orslipped from their bodies, the gopis entered a state ofdevastation so intense that Sukadeva Gosvami express toKing Pariksit that it was impossible for him to describe thatscene. The Vraja-devis became like lifeless statues, notbreathing or moving.The gopis whose hearts had already been stolen by Krsnastopped all sensory activity. As a flower that falls from thetree-branch becomes lifeless, similarly the gopis nowseemed deprived of their life-force.Somehow or another, they came to Nanda-bhavana. Theyknew Krsna would leave from that gate in the morning.“We will not let him leave,” they thought. At that time, theveil of secrecy that usually kept society blind to their deeplove for Krsna was gone and they began to cryuncontrollably. They became like a person deprived of hisgreatest treasure, or like mothers whose sons had just died.“O Creator,” they said, “how could You be so hard-hearted?What is this arrangement of Yours? Why are You killingus?”yas tvam pradarsyasita-kuntalavrtamMukunda-vaktram su-kapolam un-nasamsokapanoda-smita-lesa-sundaramkarosi paroksyam asadhu te krtamSrimad-Bhagavatam 10.39.20“Having shown us the face of Mukunda, framed by darklocks of hair and beautified by His shining cheeks, raisednose, and charming smiles, which destroy all misery, Youwill now make that face invisible to us. This behavior ofYours is not good at all.”The gopis were not worried that Krsna may be harmed byKamsa. That is not why they were distressed. They knewthat Krsna’s heart was very soft and that as soon asVasudeva and Devaki saw Krsna they would offer theiraffection and prayers to Him and not allow Him to everreturn. They knew this would come to pass.The gopis continued, “O Providence, although You havecome here with the name Akrura, You are actually cruel(krura). It seems You have lost all sense, for You are takingaway what You once gave us. You are depriving us of thesole meaning to our eyes’ existence. You are suggesting tous to look at anything other than Krsna.“This destroyer (Akrura) has come and done his work inmere moments. In just a second he has stolen our life awayfrom us. Tomorrow morning our lives will be devoid ofmeaning. The songs, sweet words, and dancing ofMathura’s girls will arrest Krsna and keep Him theirforever.”Nanda Baba announced in Vraja that everyone shouldprepare to go to Mathura with presentations for Kamsa.“We will attend the Dhanusa-yajna and offer our respects toSiva Thakura as well as the king. The yajna takes place onSiva Ratri in front of Rangesvara, and there will be manyfestivities. Krsna and Balarama have requested by the kingto wrestle in his presence.”All arrangements were being made but the gopis of Vrajaalone considered their lives finished. They doubted, in fact,they were sure, that Krsna would never return. Why didthey have this doubt? Were they astrologers? Did they readthe stars to see the future? Why did they think like this?Nanda Baba is in vatsalya-rasa. He did not doubt the waythe gopis did. Because the depth of the gopis love is greaterthan that of those in vatsalya-rasa, the gopis consideredthemselves already lifeless and felt that Krsna would neverreturn to them after going to Mathura.The gopis knew that Krsna and Baladeva were very softhearted.If anyone in Mathura were to just offer them alittle love and service then they will come under theircontrol. The gopis thought, “If you give Krsna anything Hisheart melts; even if its just a little bit of butter or misri. Hedances for such simple in joy and eagerness loving gifts. InMathura there is so much opulence. The Mathura-vasis willgive Krsna many nice things and He will be arrested.”Do the gopis mean to say that Krsna is greedy? Not exactly.Krsna is not attracted to any gift itself but to love. When agift is given as a representation of love, Krsna must acceptit.“We Vrajavasis have nothing,” the gopis went on, “onlysome fruits, flowers, leaves, and go-rasa. The Yadavas andthe residents of Mathura, have so much wealth and are alsovery tricky. In Mathura, there are many young girls who arebeautiful and clever. They will come close to Krsna andcontrol Him. We simple girls of the forest of Vraja offeredour hearts to Krsna and He accepted them, why then wouldHe not accept the hearts of more qualified and expertgirls?”The truth is that, wherever there is deep love, there isdoubt. This is not the fault of a person with love; this isnatural. For example, when a child goes to school and isonly a little bit late to return, his parents think, “There musthave been an accident! Perhaps he was kidnapped!” Theydoubt in this way. But why? Why do they automaticallythink something bad has happened? Why do they not thinkpositively? This is nature. This kind of doubt comes handin-hand with deep affection.“When the Bhojas, Andhakas, Vrsnis, and others see Krsnathey will certainly be overjoyed and put on a big festival.They will rejoice—while we die.”Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura comments thatbecause Mahalaksmi is unable to enter Vrndavana she waswaiting just outside the border. The gopis thought that assoon as Krsna left Vrndavana, she would definitely make ahuge drama. With millions of different attractive svarupasshe will endeavor to steal Krsna’s heart. She sees Him asher Narayana, in whose heart she always resides.Laksmi-devi had been unable to accept Krsna’s conditionswhen she begged for entrance into Vrndavana. She couldnot tolerate the idea of being born from the womb of agopi, marrying a gopa, and becoming a servant of cows.But now her chance to meet with Krsna was coming. Thegopis said, “She has been waiting a long time for this. Shewill surely have many duplicitous plans and svarupas ofladies to enter His heart and arrest Him.”If people offer themselves to Krsna, Krsna accepts them.He cannot refuse them. This is His weakness. He evenaccepted the witch Putana as a mother. She offered herbreast milk to Him with the intention of poisoning Him, butdespite her ill-intentions, Krsna accepted that as service andgave her a permanent position and seva in relation to Him.Now Laksmi will steal Krsna from us, and such is ourmisfortune that we do not have any power born of tapa oryoga to protect ourselves from this robbery.”maitad-vidhasyakarunasya nama bhudakrura ity etad ativa darunahyo 'sav anasvasya su-duhkhitam janampriyat priyam nenyati param adhvanahSrimad-Bhagavatam 10.39.26That merciless Akrura should not be called Akrura (notcruel), for he is in fact so cruel (krura) that without evenattempting to console the sorrowful Vrajavasis, he is takingKrsna, who is more dear to us than our very lives, awayfrom us.“O hard-hearted Akrura, you are rendering us shelterlessand indeed taking our lives. You are stealing our heart,intending to present it to Kamsa. No one is more cruel thanyou. We cannot revolt against Nanda Baba’s arrangement,so you must be sure to bring Krsna back. If you fail to dothis, then mark our words, you will realize our pain. Thefire in our hearts will continuously burn you. You willnever feel well for as long as you live. This pain that youare giving us today will come to you and will drive youmad. We are not just one or two gopis, we are millions. Youwill feel the pain of each and every one of us.”“Alas! Look! Krsna is already seated on the chariot, and thebullock carts of the cowherd men are following behind.What has happened to their intelligence? Why are theelders letting this happen? Have they gone mad? They willnot be able to bring Him back. They do not realize this.Indeed the creator is against us. Just see how Krsna’sfriends, headed by Sridama, are accompanying Him. Theydo not know that he won’t come back. They do not knowthat this Vraja-mand ala will burn in the fire of our pain.Nothing here can remain without our Vraja-jivana.”The gopis were normally shy and would never approachKrsna in front of everyone, but they decided now to all gobefore Him and stop Him from going. “If we cannot stopHim, then at least we will have seen Him this one last time.If we do not see Him in the last moments of our life thenwe will not be able to be with Him in our next life.”“We must stop Him,” they thought. Then they surroundedthe chariot on which Krsna-Baladeva and Akrura wereseated and pleaded with Krsna to not to leave them. Theycast off all fear of what society would think of them. Theydid not care if the consequence for such behavior waspunishment or criticism. This is called anuraga.Who can explain the suffering of the gopis at this time. Thesame Krsna used to smile at them as they crossed paths. Atthose times, He would give them hints about the agreedplace where He would meet with them. Today, here.Tomorrow, there. He enjoyed rasa with them for an entirenight of Brahma, and He had many other loving exchangeswith them in Vraja-mandala’s many caves and groves andby the waterfalls and streams. How was it possible thattoday this would all be over? How could this relationshipbe broken? How could life ever return to them? How couldthey ever speak with anyone apart from Him? When theirlives and hearts were completely filled with love for Krsna,how could they tolerate Him leaving them?yo 'hnah knaye vrajam Ananta-sakhah paritogopair visan khura-rajas-churitalaka-srakvenum kvanan smita-katakna-niriknanenacittam kninoty amum rte nu katham bhavemaSrimad-Bhagavatam 10.39.30“How can we survive without that friend of Ananta, Krsna, who, in the company of the cowherd boys, would return to Vraja in the evening, His hair and flower-garland covered with the dust raised by hooves of the cows? 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